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MY QUESTION (Without Music)

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Published on 11 Feb 2021 / In Conspiracies

Overtime I have watched arguments from both sides of the spectrum. I have questions of my own. It is hard to find answers to these questions because both parties just insult each other and inaccurately represent the opposing side's claims. (TBH, I see this more from the Round believers)

In theory, it should be an interesting (and fun) discussion topic but there is no way to weed out the bullshit.

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

Question away. Im not the sensitive type.

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Radio War NOW! -The Anti-Propagandist Podcast-

What would be a response given from a round believer?

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Radio War NOW! -The Anti-Propagandist Podcast-

I finally got one

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

@Radio War NOW! -The Anti-Propagandist Podcast-: k Ive heard them all through out the years

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Nemesis
Nemesis 24 days ago

@Radio War NOW! -The Anti-Propagandist Podcast-: lol

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Radio War NOW! -The Anti-Propagandist Podcast-

@Nick:

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

@Radio War NOW! -The Anti-Propagandist Podcast-: I hope you dont take offence as I didn't do the meme but cant find a better 1.

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

Space is a false construct and a prison for the mind as more land is hidden beyond Antartica.

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

I have a playlist.

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

I have a playlist

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

I have a playlist

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

I have a playlist titled space deception

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

I have a playlist titled space deception

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

Do you think we landed on the moon? NASA has admited several times they cant leave low earth orbit.

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Nick
Nick 24 days ago

I have a playlist titled space deception

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HereAmI
HereAmI 13 days ago

The idea is generally correct, but the details are not. We know that the earth "loses" 1/4 revolution relative to the sun every year; this is why we have to move it forwards every 4 years so that it gets into the same orientation with respect to the sun on a particular day every year, so the seasons remain constant. So this means that if earth loses six hours per year wrt the sun, then in six months, it loses not 12 hours, but three.

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Nick
Nick 13 days ago

@HereAmI: .

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HereAmI
HereAmI 13 days ago

@Nick: I'm not disputing the flatness and immovability of the earth, but just a small point wrt your claim that there would be a 12 hour difference between the times at the equinox points.

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HereAmI
HereAmI 13 days ago

The same thing applies to the FE model; the sun will oscillate between Cancer and Capricorn in slightly less than 365 days, so again, the extra day has to be added every four years.

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HereAmI
HereAmI 13 days ago

As to seeing completely different stars according to the GE model between summer and winter, this is what we do see. As with all of these observations, we see the same thing irrespective of our model, but simply explain it differently. For example, we can believe that the earth is central, stationary, and orbited by the sun, around which orbit the planets; or we can believe that the standard helio model applies. In very many cases, it simply comes down to a belief that you have in one or other of the models; but dynamically, they are equivalent.

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Nick
Nick 13 days ago

@HereAmI: sorry I apologize. Im always doing battle it seems. Thank you for the info.

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HereAmI
HereAmI 13 days ago

You may be interested in my alternative explanation for why things fall, which GE theorists think is because of something called gravity, and many FE theorists think is to do with something called density. But more fundamental than either of these possibilities - even assuming that masses attract each other because of their mass - is something called the law of the conservation of energy. This is exemplified in an electrical circuit; if you charge a battery, you create a potential difference between the terminals, which discharges by allowing the energy you put in to flow back once you create a circuit between them.to

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HereAmI
HereAmI 13 days ago

The formula is very simple; ie V = IR, and we note that there is no "force" term in the equation, so no force is required to make the current flow; it flows because the energy you put in reappears when you allow it to. A directly analogous situation is when you raise an object in height; you need to put energy in to allow this to happen, and iot is called potential energy, in a very similar fashion to the potential energy you create in a battery when you charge it.

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HereAmI
HereAmI 13 days ago

So again, if you put in a small amount of energy to get the object moving, it will start to fall, and again, there is no reason to assume that a force is needed to make this happen; once you have given a small "activation energy" impulse, the object will fall automatically so as to recreate the enrgy you put in originally, ie no "gravitational force" is needed to make this occur; and the law mentioned then requires acceleration in the object as if it did not occur, then regardless of how high you had originally lifted it, the same amount of energy would be liberated when it hit the ground.

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HereAmI
HereAmI 13 days ago

As I see it, there are no forces as such in the universe. Picture a net stretched out in infinity, the edges of which are connected to a source of infinite energy which we may call God. At some point, He wished to create something from this net, so He breathed some of His limitless energy into the net, such that it began to be agitated, like a wind blowing over a calm sea, and all the things we see are an expression of that, including ourselves. So the reason why things move is not because of a force, but as a result of the energy which was originally supplied to the net collapsing back down into quiescence. This God may therefore allow the particular canvas He has created disappear, and put another creation in its place, according to His will, and in fact this is what scripture says that He will do. "And I beheld a new heaven, and a new earth, and the former things were passed away."

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